"blame it on the steam cloud" assigns no responsibility, no liability. The mash adheres to the drums, but is not exposed to the steam inside, and dries. VIDEO! )ADS-B shows ground speed, of course. Too bad comments on here are closed for that accident. "What a bunch of BS. Pilots who flew this approach repeatedly should have realised the peril, and taken action. If you knew how an ASOS worked, you'd know it wasn't anything to do with being in IMC. It seems to be risky these days to express admiration about a man and his wife for their aviation interests, so the info above is offered without comment. Quickest way to get there Cheapest option Distance between. Snow was observed falling. That, combined with the snow, make it difficult to (1) visually appreciate the actual descent path being flown and, (2) see obstacles that are just protruding in the aforementioned path. More Info. advisory GS, that would have put her 50-60' below MDA. Wonder who got paid off to approve that nonsense building permit. He is an avid aviator, and his wife, Doris, is a member of the Ninety-Nines, the international organization of women pilots." 0:06. Reply Delete. So if as you are saying she had the runway in sight, why on God's green earth was she 100 feet AGL a half-mile from the runway? The lights would have been hazy through a fog of snow and steam. From the eyewitness testimony in the preliminary report, we know the she did enter the steam cloud.As for the MDA, if she had the runway in view (and likely did at this range, as the forward visibility was given as 1 statute mile, she was already below the cloud base, and the stack is almost exactly 0.5 mi from the threshold of the runway), she was ok to be below MDA.I also want to emphasize that the impacted stack is DIRECTLY on the extended centerline of the runway. These would apply to a frequent, small, non-precision, destination airport, and those of us that taught approaches appreciated visualizing the descent or stepdowns to MDA. She was truly amazing. We also know that this position was too low as thousands of other flights landed on that runway without hitting the stack.The MDH seems much lower than the OVC layer. Kathryn's Report: Judge Awards $11.9 Million in Suit Against Civil Air Patrol: Beechcraft 95-B55 Baron, N36638, Executive Aircraft Storage LLC, fatal accident occurred February 22, 2014 at LaGrange Callaway Airport (KLGC), Troup County, Georgia. I listed them as assumptions because I considered the info unverified until we get confirmation of a measured stack height.If the FAA obstruction listing is correct, that means ground level at the potato plant is only 4 feet higher than TDZE (4256 - 100 - 4152 = 4 feet). it seems you haven't even bothered to read the prelim report. The tiny Cessna 210M aircraft with five men on board disappeared somewhere over the NSW Barrington Tops almost 34 years ago - the final, panicked transmissions from its pilot suggesting things . If it was sarcasm, you should include /s so people don't mistake it for a serious reply.Calculations of how much mass of water vapor was being delivered by the stacks and mixed into the air above the plant, with diffusion, spread and distance of the effect from the point of emission weren't in the preliminary. Brittney lived life to its fullest. Possible it was slightly iced during the approach to JAMID. Cessna 172P Skyhawk, N97883: Fatal accident occurred October 06, 2022 at Newport News/Williamsburg International Airport (KPHF), Virginia National Transportation Safety Board - Accident Report Number: ERA23FA008 I'd argue a much better and less rhetorical question is what was an airplane doing at that altitude in IMC conditions? Maybe make runway lights magenta, leave the centerline green. As the Caravan started overflying the Gem factory, visibility further degraded due to the steam pulsed from the 6 stacks. It is easily found on the Internet. Kathryn's Report (kathrynsreport.com) Kathryn's Report: This Aviation Blog Is Permanently Open (kathrynsreport.com) Edit, as Eman said, "permanently closed for a little while" , the entry now says permanently open. Did you notice the color of the smoke stack? 2021 Milan airplane crash. See 6:45 in the video: https://youtu.be/M6ev-hmvtag?t=405. The Cessna 421 plane crash was just after 11 am local time this morning. @billy - No reason to expect insults. 24 much safer and longer runway which I feel more comfortable with. Plant has more political clout then an airport that is why it was built. Dead-center. You are on your own to figure out an appropriate descent angle to keep you clear of the numerous hazardous obstacles on final. There were three people on board who sustained injuries in the crash. So, again, false. The hot vapour rises, but condensed droplets tend to fall. You don't have any vertical guidance at all, so if you're a bit low for whatever reason you don't know it then you're dead. By Plane and Pilot Updated August 12, 2021 Save Article. Crashed at 8:32 AM. "How to tell us you aren't a pilot without telling us you aren't a pilot. The building/towers are a red herring, imho.Loved ones can't blame the person they just lost. A lot of conjecture in this comment, I have over 200 instrument approaches to this airport (of course all have been at minimums :-)), the silos don't come in to play, neither do the cooling towers, it is a tricky approach with a lot of thermal issues from the potato plant and river and roadways but nothing a 1500+ hour pilot can't handle. There is photographic evidence of the stacks on the roof at the collision location in a 2018 Town News article about the plant, so they have been there at least that long. If the obstacle surface allowed it, they would have put in an RNAV LPV approach to this airport instead of an LNAV, which would have been just as good if not better than an ILS. Additionally, with the needles centered she would have been 100 feet to the right of the stacks on a normal GPS approach.Looking at the ADS-B track on the missed it shows her at 6950 which should be coming from the GPS. do these decision makers even know the difference between a precision and non precision approach? Brittney explored many hobbies throughout her life, including piano, athletics, fishing, and hunting. Kathryn S Report Cessna 180f N180tb Accident Occurred August 20 2019 At Arlington Municipal On september 1, 2014, about 1050 eastern daylight time, a cessna 180, n6510a, was substantially damaged when it impacted trees and terrain during the initial. )The record again, now with tolerance codes highlighted:16-036731 O US ID HEYBURN 42 33 05.92N 113 45 34.15W STACK 1 00100 04256 R 4 D P 2016ANM01617OE A 2017285For stack 16-036731, code "D" means that the declared accuracy of the recorded vertical information in AGL and MSL is +/- 50 feet, which for a 100' stack is an absurdly large tolerance. Ice forming on the intake cowling constricts the air intake. Let's do the math. He also attempted to do a recreation of the approach into KBYI by scud-running with a non-IFR rated pilot, seemingly violating cloud clearance requirements and also not making any calls on the CTAF frequency during his approach. "Yeah, no. Kathryn s Report Cessna 525C Citation CJ4 N614SB Fatal May 13th, 2018 - Cessna 525C Citation . Last edited: Dec 22, 2021. The crash wasn't a result of a tower appearing out of nowhere, but an airplane appearing where it shouldn't be. This is a place where we learn what not to do next time. I came to the same conclusion using approach plate data and Google Earth. Preventing upper body collision with the instrument panel in relatively survivable accidents doesn't get enough consideration. This approach has an MDA of 408 AGL, a glideslope of 3.75, do the math. There is still data needed to determine amount of fuel in tanks. freight dogs fly to some airports that are questionable at best with shaky non precision step down approaches with no glideslope. Do NOT descend below xxx MSL (example). The pilot was fatally injured. A financial firm CEO was killed along with three others when a small plane that he was flying crashed shortly after takeoff in Georgia, according to reports . The collision smokestack is 2,639' from the threshold (measured on Google Earth). Rule is, you don';t go below the MDA unless the runway environment is continuously in sight and for the Caravan pilot, it was not. He survived but required a series of reconstructive surgeries.He had flown in shoulder harness equipped aircraft but the Cherokee he was using for his own startup flight school was just lap belts:https://www.chieftain.com/story/news/disaster/2020/02/06/pilot-instructor-faces-tough-recovery/1738143007/http://www.kathrynsreport.com/2020/02/piper-pa-28-150-cherokee-c-n5969w-fatal.html. From finance to industry? I watched a podcast a few days ago discussing a similar fatal ditching (N16JR) in the Santa Monica area that happened in 2006, the NTSB determined that the occupants were not wearing shoulder harnesses (because they didn't have any) and died due to drowning with complications from blunt force trauma. in a snow storm maybe she wasn't looking for the snake river? The Gem plant was described as newly constructed when highlighted in a 2012 upgrade project info page:http://www.roguepump.com/documents/gem-state-processing-case-study.pdf, The Gem Plant in Heyburn shows up at 2010 on the company history timeline, here:https://www.oregonpotato.com/aboutopc/#history, January 2011 news article expected the new plant to be up and running spring or early summer that year:https://www.potatopro.com/news/2011/burleyheyburn-dehydrated-potato-plant-open-early-year. Interpreting the original post can be taken as:A: The pilots don't always get the necessary hand holding-or-B: The pilots don't get what flying is all about.Seems like original post was A, response interpreted it as B. 0:32. Also the color of the building itself? The MDA is 4560 with a TDZE of 4152; so 408 above with a requirement of 1 mile visibility. As-flown airspeeds of two different freight company C208's approaching the Gem stacks are interesting to compare.N585SA BYI RW20 C208 VFR approaches:4/15/2022 120 knot GS + 27009KT wind component4/26/2022 096 knot GS + 22011KT wind component4/27/2022 127 knot GS + 28005KT wind componentN928JP BYI RW20 C208 VFR approach:4/04/2022 083 knot GS + 22009KT wind componentN928JP BYI RW20 C208 IMC approach w/crash:4/13/2022 081 knot GS + 19008KT wind component. Newer editions of the Cessna Caravan contain updated glass instrumentation with Garmin G600 or G1000 systems and weeping wing TKS ice prevention systems.Please do not assume that classic rookie pilot mistakes are at play here. Assuming the aircraft is indicating 7000 on the altimeter, when she went missed and flew the published missed approach, she was 50 feet lower than expected. G1000 avionics can log a lot of data if and only if you have a formatted SD card in the top slot of the MFD. But to go below the MDA prior to 1.1 miles from the runway kinda busts the approach. If visibility was 1 SM, and the ASOS is 600' west of the threshold, then the pilot broke out only 2100' (lateral distance) before the tower. There is no need to conflate the egregious errors in the case of N56KJ. suppose that building had been painted with a bold pattern and say a big potato image - no chance of mistaking that for a runway. It doesn't provide the external factors such as bird strikes or the flight deck conversation to know the human factors. Quick trig (sin 3.75 x 2,639') says that's 173' above the 40' TCH, so 173' + 40' = 213' above touchdown elevation. A National Transportation Safety Board investigator arrived on the scene on Tuesday. I guarantee that the energy output that industrial plant is emitting into the atmosphere would rival the output of any heavy category aircraft. The plate shows 4,304 so I used that. The two pilots in the PA-46, and the flight instructor and student pilot in the Cessna 172, were fatally injured. I know this is a LNAV approach so vertical guidance is not provided as it is on a precision approach.Here is the approach plate: you have to zoom in to see the 4304' stackhttps://flightaware.com/resources/airport/BYI/IAP/RNAV+(GPS)+RWY+20/pdfHere is the track-log:https://flightaware.com/live/flight/N928JP/history/20220413/1300Z/KSLC/KBYI/tracklog. Tater plant has more political clout and money then a city owned airport. Fortunately, no one was hurt.The step up from the instruction/GA world to single-pilot 135 is huge. On 29 May 2021, a Cessna 501 Citation I/SP crashed into the Percy Priest Lake in Tennessee. 1 - 24. (ADS-B granularity in increments of 25 feet altitude, with rounding and accuracy limitations in FlightAware's processed data reduces precision, but attempting to compensate each point for local pressure variation from 29.92 is eliminated by this technique. You MUST ditch with full flaps and almost stall it right before impact with the water. He saw the KR comments detailing 2 statute mile visibility METAR trending 2.5 miles with lowest clouds well above MDA and also the correlated and mapped descent angle calculations.Tuber commenting by the mindless fans is praising him for apologizing in what was just his latest heartless disparaging of a lost pilot for views. From the preliminary ntsb report:"According to a witness, located about one quarter mile away, he first heard, then observed the airplane descend out of the clouds then immediately went into a steam cloud, which was produced from a set of six smokestacks located on the same roof. From the second platform level, the ladder going to the top level platform is missing and you can see a section of stack that appears damaged just below the top platform. KENEDY, Texas - According to a preliminary report, a single-engine Cessna 182 that crashed on Monday took off from New Braunfels National Airport in New Braunfels, Texas. The imgur caption has the correct runway number. Absolutely correct, our operation needed to improve its pilot evaluation, vetting and training. After a 1.5-year investigation, the NTSB could not provide an exact reason for why the pilot became . The information contained in this record should be the most current Airworthiness information available in the historical aircraft record. The pilot had the right idea to land on the hard-packed sand. If you were a pilot you would know that warm/wet air has very little lift. What a dumb place to put the potato factory, lots of open land, but yeahhh lets put factory with stem stacks right on short final. Brittney was a member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints and served a mission in Birmingham, England from 2015-2017. Following high school, Brittney received a prestigious internship with NBC International, working in their hospitality program for the 2012 London Olympics. Photo of N 928JP is still up on GEM AIR's web site. Precision matters to actual pilots. The MDA & displaced threshold is for the obstacles near the approach. She descended out of the clouds and was quickly enveloped in the steam cloud (as witnessed by people on the ground and by surveillance video). She received her private flying license in high school. Skipping to the end and resuming reading at the next to the last paragraph is recommended if you don't want to read all of the details.) The billowing clouds suddenly blind you, and the aircraft loses lift at the worst possible time. The A/FD mentions the threshold is displayed 305 feet due to the stack. UPDATE- GoFund Me created to get Matt and his daughter back in the air- https://www.gofundme.com/f/lets-rebuild-matt-mansells-cessna?qid=c3a638176d86b1758473. For whatever reason, she was below MDA, and I'm guessing they'll find fuel starvation. Flaps don't seem to be deployed. The #5 comment about lowest cloud layer is important to grasp. Funeral services will also be live streamed at bit.ly/brittneyinfanger. The Weather.gov page that contains your copied text paragraph verbatim may have been the origin of all the other bad "starter blade" pastes over the years. I think the witness is correct, based on my calculation as followsThe ASOS reported 1SM visibility. KBYI has a 3.7 degree glidepath for obstacles, including the plant and the railroad brige, which would put her at 66.7 feet over the threshold and about 108 feet over the end of the displaced threshold. Amazingly, the flight could have succeeded all things else considered.The onus would appear to be on the plant and surrounding politics in this instance. My condolences to her friends and family. The only way to hit the obstacles is to be WAY low on the approach. Apparently the mail must get through, despite the automated voice telling you "Minimums" and you don't have the runway. Recently she appeared on Los Angeles television representing airport interests in a debate with the Airport Neighbors Association. I have done this approach alot and I don't bother with 20 when burley is at minimums or fact that I can't circle to land 24 . But if the temperature is warm (roughly 0C to -5C), wet snow mixed with liquid water could to stick to your airplane.Dec 11, 2021Frost disrupts the smooth flow of wind over the wing causing reduced lift. She was descending at 700 / minute. This is probably why the pilot decided to continue the approach"The eye witness account does not agree with your theory. Juan Brown on the Blancolirio YouTube Channel mentions the icing conditions. The aircraft was well below the 3.75 degree "glidepath" at this point from the FAF to the TDZE of 4152'. See this image that shows the stacks are directly on a standard 3 degree descent angle and there is no VSGI lighting to warn you otherwise. The airplane was recovered to a secure facility for further examination. Piper PA 31 Navajo Wikipedia FedEx FedEx Express Introduces New Feeder Aircraft May 14th, 2018 - Modernization of feeder fleet continues with Cessna SkyCourier 408 designed . It can be hard to determine your altitude based on just the runway light, she probably had very few references visually to go by. During that last phase, the Caravan was in a nose-high descent. The Flight Safety Cessna Caravan Emergency Memory Items Check List calls for Airspeed85 KIAS for Model 208 without flaps or with 20 degrees flaps for an Model 208B Engine Failure Immediately After Takeoff. 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